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Hello,

Where can get CY7C1625KV18-250BZXC reference schematic and DSN file?

Thank you.

It appears that FM25H20-DGTR is the same part as the one that used to be produced by Ramtron. Is it the same silicon? I need to know whether I should do a new FAI.

We using commercial device CY7c4122KV13, we design the board with 1.2V for VDDQ (we work with data sheet rev 'M' )

In new data sheet rev 'Q'  changed the voltage VDDQ to 1.1 for commercial devices.

The question is : can we continue works with 1.2V for VDDQ or we must change to 1.1V?

IBISファイルの入手をお願いいたします。

型番　CY7B933-JXI

同じ型番のものが無い場合、類似品(温度グレード, パッケージ相違)でも構いません。

よろしくお願いいたします。

The CY7C0833V data sheet (Doc# 38-06059 Rev. AA, 8/1/2017) notes in fig 1 that the CE and CE/ pins are not applicable for this part and must be tied off to VSS and VDD, respectively [to always enable them].

No such notes are listed in Table 3. Is this device truly intended to be on a bus by itself as it cannot be deselected?

Hello,

We are using a QDR memory (CY7C2665KV18 clocked at 450 MHz with 1.8V core and 1.5V for HSTL logic)  following this datasheet [1] http://www.cypress.com/file/45386/download and these guidelines [1] http://www.cypress.com/file/38596/download.

The QDR memory is connected to a MPF300TS-1FCG1152I/EES FPGA device.  In the current state of our project we have routed all data buses, address and control signals matched in length and impedance (50 Ohm),

but recently, we have noticed that we could have misunderstood impedance configuration following [1] and [2] after having found this forum enough time later [3] https://community.cypress.com/thread/27706?start=0&tstart=0

In [2] at page 11 (Signal integrity and Layout Guidelines), the app note says:

"Cypress Packages are routed to obtain all traces to

50 Ω ± 10%. All traces must be routed to have 50-Ω

impedance and should have no impedance

1. discontinuities."

Ok, done.

"Consider using a series resistor to match total driver

side impedance to 50 Ω."

Ok, this is true if our output driver impedance is less to 50 Ohm, so we decided set the RQ resistor to 250 Ohm. Then at page 24 in [2] 7th paragraph we have:

"The value of the termination resistor (R) is 50 Ω

because most designs have a trace characteristic

impedance of 50 Ω. The termination resistor value

must be equal to the characteristic impedance of the

1. trace."

Considering [3], this is true (close to 50 Ohm) for RQ equal to 175 if Low range setting ODT but output buffers are to 35 Ohm.  Once our tracks are routed this solution is too hard to implement for us at this moment, the same remains for 8th paragraph in [2].

But in the 9th Paragraph of [2], the app says:

"The other recommendation is to keep RQ equals to

250 Ω then the output driver impedance of memory is

50 Ω and with ODT pin low, the ODT value of memory

is 75 Ω. In this case, the reflection co-efficient is

positive with trace impedance of 50 Ω and customer

does not need to use external resistors to match the impedance. "

Can we infer here that the ODT inputs are at 75 Ohm and this does not have remarkable effect in signal integrity? were somewhat confused at these points.

Following figure 39 at page 23 of [2], does this implies that we have to put mandatory termination resistors at WPS/RPS control signals, CP/CP_N, and address bus because there aren't ODT signals?

If we didn't loss anything at this point, we have thought a possible solution to overcome our problem with minimal impact in layout:

Set RQ = 250 Ohm

Set ODT pin Low, so ODT signals at 75 Ohm.

if Address and other ODT signals must be terminated with a pull up resistor (50 Ohm) to VTT, use a VTT termination regulator (for example NCP51400 http://www.onsemi.com/pub/Collateral/NCP51400-D.PDF or another one), and then place 0201 50 Ohm resistors close to Fanout vias.

can be this solution effective? otherwise what are the alternatives?

Thanks in advance

Dear all,

The customer is now using IDT's 7025PF and we are trying to replace it with Cypress DPRAM.

The customer's board now works on 5.0V, but they are changing it to 3.0V.

Based on the requirements below,  is it correct to suggest CY7C025AV-25AXI?

IDT

part number=7025PF

voltage=3.0V

8K*16

Industrial grade

TQFP 100

Pin compatible and timing compatible with 7025PF

Thank you，

Shun Furusawa