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 Good morning,

   

I don't manage to find a solution to measure the duty cycle in a PWM signal . I have to measure firstly a constant duty cycle for one signale, secondly i have to treat a signal with variable duty cycle ( such as a sine turned into a PWM modulation) ? How to solve the problem ?

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Bob_Marlowe
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Easiest approach will be to use a timer that counts on a given internal frequency. The capture input of the timer will save the actual count which you can read-out in a connected interrupt where you reset the timer again.

   

When using two of these construct you are able to measure both the high-time and low-time of your signal.

   

 

   

Bob

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Something like this ? D produces a high pulse = period width of PWM inout, its ISR

   

reads and resets counter.

   

 

   

Set capture on - edge, with ISR enabled in component, capture width

   

of PWM high time when ISR fires and capture register read.

   

 

   

Resolution clk show = 1 uS measurement resolution, 16 bit counter

   

can count a period up to ~65K us.

   

 

   

I think you can replace D and its inverter with a T F-F, just did not look at this.

   

 

   

Regards, Dana.

   

 

   

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One mod, move PeriodISR to falling edge of period indicator from D, eg. the output

   

of inverter / data input to D.

   

 

   

Regards, Dana.

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hello Dana , i need the PWM measurement too. I will give your schematic a try, but i miss some detail info about the proper Counter configutration.

   

maybe you even have this as little creator project at hand to share.  b.r. Markus

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I have a project, but not working. Seems interrupts not working the way

   

I wanted, so stumped at the moment, and today have other commitments

   

so cannot work on it.

   

 

   

The project is PSOC 3 based, runing on -030 board, so you would have to

   

change device, and should compile into PSOC 5 OK, or so I think.

   

 

   

Note I fixed all re-entrant errors in project, so on PSOC 3 compiles w / no

   

errors or warnings.

   

 

   

Regards, Dana.

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thanks Dana for sharing your project.

   

i did porting to kit LP050 and some code workaround (and both ISR).

   

but results are still not the way i want. 😞

   

i have no possiblity to change PeriodISR to falling edge as mentioned.

   

the result i want to get for lcd is:1st line: D.C.xx.yy %

   

                                                   2ndline : Frequency:xx.yy kHz

   

can you pimp my projectcode for doing so ?

   

my test signal is TTL 1.02kHz fixed frequency and 0.01 to 99.90% variable duty cycle

   

from a 2D-rotation hallsensor(360° in 12bit-PWM_angle resolution).

   

need the correct duty-cylcle value for further calculations of position-change speed..

   

b.r Markus

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The period ISR taken off the D output, then inverted, is effectively falling

   

edge, end of the period. The D high time, or its low time for that matter, either width, is =

   

period of the input signal. So you set the period ISR to rising edge, the D and inverter

   

take care of the rest.

   

 

   

Regards, Dana.

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Attached is a basic project you can modify to suit your needs. Measures pulse width

   

and duty cycle. It does this not on every input cycle as it is not a pure HW approach

   

and I chose to do it with one timer. With two timers you could do it on a per cycle basis,

   

or use Verilog for an optimal; solution.

   

 

   

Regards, Dana.

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hello dear dana,

   

thank for your reviewing my project and make it work.

   

best regards Markus

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Bob_Marlowe
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@Markus

   

Where are you located? I live near Bremen, Germany

   

 

   

Bob

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Here is another approach, using a continuously running fixed function counter,

   

takes less resources, simpler.

   

 

   

Regards, Dana.

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@Bob

   

I live near Augsburg and work in Kaufbeuren (Allgäu).

   

greetz from southern Bavaria.  Markus

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hello dear dana,

   

thank you for sharing your simplified project. As it works fine on PSoC5LP so far, I like to port your latest Creator-project to

   

PSoC4000 ( CY8C4013SXI-410) device for having a very small and low-cost solution for wanted flow-meter application comunicating via I2C to host device (PSoC3 based).

   

unfortunately there is no logic inside the small PSoC400 device, so i consider to use external inverter

   

and two pins for inputig the PWM-test signal.

   

PSoC'in is challenging fun.

   

best regards Markus

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Bob_Marlowe
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You may use a CY8C4245xxx which you can get for $1 at this time in single quantities and that chip includes some logic.

   

 

   

Bob

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@Bob

   

I consider the PSoC42xx device for a more valuable flowmeter with segment LCD drive, also but later to come.

   

The PSoC4000 device family came to my mind, while it is the tinyest part with low-pincount (SOIC-8) Cypress offers,

   

also operating from  same +5Volt voltage rail as Hall sensor IC.

   

planned PCB will have round shape with only 17mm diameter carrying a 4-Pin Molex picoblade (1.25mm) Conector, Hallsensor IC (SOIC-8), PSoC and bypass capacitors to fit the flowmeter hardware. Parts will be mounted on both sides of a doublesided PCB.

   

Size matters in this particular case, to keep design simple and cheap.

   

Otherwise i would like to use the more powerful PSoC's of course.

   

I dont want to use an old 8-bit PIC for new design....so i give the PSoC4000 family a try.

   

have a nice weekend. greetz  - Markus

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Possibly you could use the pin configurable interrupt (it has a falling edge

   

selection) to get the  - edge interrupt for the high time measurement.

   


   

Regards, Dana.

   

 

   

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Looks like part cost is 40% less -

   

 

   

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Paste did not work -

   

 

                                                                                            
CY8C4013SXI-410In ProductionNPSoC 4000SOIC-40 - 85DatasheetUS$0.60
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hello dear Dana

   

I gave your suggestion for the pin with interrupt generation ( falling edge ) a try, but got only ridiculous readings.

   

any idea what to change to make it work like your solution with inverter included ?

   

regards  Markus

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You may be affected by oring of GPIO for interrupts, and not clearing

   

ISR. Take a look at this thread, towards the bottom -

   

 

   

    

   

          http://www.cypress.com/?app=forum&id=2232&rID=74969

   

 

   

Regards, Dana.

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Attached is project using pin ISR connection, only real change was

   

clearing interrupt of pin in the pulse high falling edge ISR.

   

 

   

Regards, Dana.

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        Hi, I am having trouble typing in the 'description' box in Chrome to begin with... But what I really want to ask is how to implement this fine example program with a PSOC 4 series. There is no fixed 16b counter module, and my substitution of the Timer Counter in the PSOC 4 components is not working. The data values are erratic, producing duty cycles well over 1. Please take a look if you can. Thanks in advance, Tom   
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        Never mind, I changed it to a 1mhz clock, and it is counting them correctly. Tom   
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Anonymous
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Hi,

well, I apologize for warming this up again, I am new to PSoC and I am trying to port this project to a PSoC 4 (4245 Chip) and I am loosing hair at an alarming rate. Please, can someone help me or point me in the right direction as I am having to use an UDP counter.

Many Thanks

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